this is something that the obama administration has been warning about for months and they're still talking about doing that at the pentagon and other key places. when you talk about areas where congress might want to step in, they might have concerns, that's another area. but i don't know that the furloughs are going to be sort of as alarming as the white house believes. there's a lot of individually people have concerns in those departments, but i think for the general public so far there hasn't been as big an outcry. >> you have to wonder, the sequester cuts that you mentioned from head start to meals on wheels and the others, are you getting any sense that if -- piecemeal if people start opposing those as vociferously as people did the air-traffic controller furloughs, might congress have to then come back and do these sort of band-aid fixes? >> well, you know, one of the reasons that a lot of the house democrats were upset with the legislation on friday was they say this is a band-aid and we should be doing big sweeping bills. i feel like the momentum will run out to keep doing each of